Real Food Summit

Christine

Thank you for this. The message coming across in these presentations, is to eat plenty of animal fats. I really wish I knew all of this years ago, because now I am not able to eat lots of fats, due to having gallbladder problems and they just make me feel sick. I also am allergic to any kind of milk (goat’s, cow’s, whether grass fed or not) and also to products made with them (even yoghurts) and also allergic to fish, so that makes it difficult for me. However, I can eat liver and bone broth, so will make an effort to eat more of those.

Sean Flanagan

Christine, do you still have gluten in the mix? That can mess up downstream signalling in your gut resulting in decreased bile release.
- Christine
  
  No I don’t eat gluten or any grains. I have been doing the Specific Carbohydrate Diet for the last 8 months, but am finding that my muscles feel weak and I lack energy unless I eat lots of fruit, due to not being able to eat the required amount of fat on the diet. I do eat lots of meat though (but only the lean!) and have successfully introduced coconut and almonds, but just in small amounts. I am also allergic to eggs (chicken, quail, duck).
  
  I noticed that he mentioned fish eggs in this presentation. Do you think that someone who is allergic to fish, would be able to eat fish eggs?
  
  By the way, thank you very much for putting together all these presentations. I will certainly be trying to introduce some of the things mentioned. It is good to get new ideas.
  - Curttamb
    
    just a thought have you tried digestive enzymes…as some food “allergies” are just from not having enough enzymes to break them down
  - Cdorinson
    
    have you looked into the GAPS diet? just google it. and read the testimonials to see the wide variety of issues this diet, which basically heals your gut, cures or lessens significantly. many children with allergies are helped significantly with this diet.
  - Maria
    
    Great presentation. Well worth the time I spent listening to it. I fed my son raw pastured goat milk and he did not have a single cavity
    
    Christine,
    I have similar allergies and problems with my gallbladder. While I can eat pastured lamb and deer, I must avoid chicken, turkey, duck, geese, ostrich and their eggs.
    
    WIth the addition of diluted organic cranberry and/or organic unfiltered apple juice with organic apple cider (1-3 teaspoons per cup) to my diet, I find that I can handle organic yogurt, cheese, and butter in moderation without experiencing gall bladder pain. I can eat diary products as long as they are not found in cooked foods such as pizza, macaroni and cheese, butter cookies, etc. In addition, several doctors have told me to avoid sugars, spinach, chard, and rhubarb as sugars and certain acids in vegetables have been implicated in the formation of both gallstones and kidney stones.
    
    Perhaps we can meet in the http://www.curetoothdecay forums.
    
    Maria
marian

Have you tried using coconut oil? It bypasses the gall bladder for digestion and is also fabulously good for you.

http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

I just began watching this presentation but I have a burning question that I am sure many others want to learn more about too.

I had braces during my childhood hears. I had a headgear, retainer, etc. I now have a “permanent” retainer. However, I must ask, does this literally have to be “permanent?” Is there any way for me to have this taken out and then with proper diet my teeth will remain straight? I do have an underdeveloped jaw (who doesn’t?) so maybe I do need this retainer for the rest of my life.

It would be AWESOME if I did not. It does not bother me at all but I’m sure life would be more grans without it.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Kathy

Todd, you can do a search for “homeoblock” to have your palate expanded. See if that might be an option for you!
Sherry

I also had all that orthodontic gear as a teen. I had the permanent retainer too– it was on my lower canines and the wire ran behind the lower incisors. I opted to have it removed by my dentist about 8-10 years ago (I was in my late 20′s) as it was causing some problems with plaque build up. In the lengthy time since it was removed, my teeth have not moved in any noticible way.
Kim Rioux1

If the retainer is for the lower teeth I’d recommend you keep it. Take a look around you. How many middle aged people do you see that have straight lower teeth – particularly if they’ve had braces? These teeth just tend to shift and you’ll likely lose alignment if you remove that retainer.
http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

Todd, I am working on a massive article about braces.

You should immediately seek care of an expert orthodontic practitioner.
Wearing retainers will lock up your cranial bones. However, if you remove your retainer you should expect teeth to move.
Ss1c59

I did Invisalign a few years ago and loved it. It was worth the bucks. When I had braces as a teen we only did my top teeth. Now I just wear the the retainer at night and it also keeps me from grinding my teeth.
http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

Thanks for all your responses. And thank you to Rami Nagel for your response and awesome presentation. I know the comments are not available to see once the new videos are up (or am I wrong) so I’ll be taking snapshots of these comments so I can reference them later.

I don’t mind teeth moving. I had an overbite and I think the retainer is allowing me to have a good bite. WIll the movement be a cause for concern as far as my biting goes?

I will definitely research homeoblock.

Annelie

Great information, thanks!

seancroxton

Thanks for attending, Annelie!

Nongoldberg

excellent presentations !!!!
might i know at what time will be Q & A today?

seancroxton

Thanks! There is no Q&A today. Taking the weekend off. We’ll be back Monday at 5pm PT/8pm ET.

Spirital_peace

Thank Real Food Summit. I will be getting this book and any other books. This will help me with my grandchild Thank u Guys again. Be blessed.

seancroxton

Thank YOU!!

Grace

So interesting! I’ve had cavity problems my whole life and am interested in trying to change that!

Frustration: Can NOT find grass-fed butter or milk here (Toronto)! Also, no raw milk.

Annanannas

Kerrygold brand butter is grass-fed. It comes from Ireland and may be available where you live?
Also, raw milk can be frozen, so if you can find a source within driving distance, maybe buy enough to last awhile and freeze? Good luck!
- http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry
  
  I second Kerrygold which is readily available. Toronto is a big city so I imagine there is a Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s? Go check it out. I would be shocked if they did not carry Kerrygold butter. I know the Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s in Chicago does!
http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

you should be able to find raw milk cheese.

Also go for high quality grassfed yogurt, even if pasteurized it can be okay.
Dan

Both Tropical Traditions and US Wellness Meats sells grass-fed butter. Although I’m not sure whether or not either of them ships to Canada.
Nanmaco

Try Craigslist. I have found organic foods there.

Lindyanna

Will you be airing this program again? I would love to have some of my friends listen to all your programs. LJ

http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

It’s available for sale. All 27 presentations with the slides plus 9 additional audio recordings and tons of other bonuses including a year subscription to a magazine, cookbook, etc. $67 right now but will be $99 very soon as a final price.
- seancroxton
  
  Thanks for filling her in, Todd!

http://primaltoad.com/ Todd Dosenberry

Another amazing and very educational presentation. This summit has been off the charts!

Imaplrg

@annconroy: I believe you misheard him. He said one in three TEETH had a cavity, and then followed that up with of the primitive Swiss, adults and children, there was on average one cavity per person. Compare that to the people eating the “modern” diet, 25% of the children’s teeth had cavities. He didn’t say how the whole population of “modern” compared to the whole population of ” primitive”, unless I missed it.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R66XI3KJO7X7A2D7AHDWK7SFAM dt

There is a conflict between what he says and his slide, 3 out of 10 is not .3%, .3% is 3 out of 1000
- Jennifer
  
  Um no, it’s not. .3 = .30 = 3 out of 10. Recalculate my friend… He IS correct. People are misunderstanding what he said.
http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

Just to clarify, I may have not be as clear as necessary.

Swiss on the indigenous diet in one region, had a cavity rate of 0.3 I meant to say that one in three PEOPLE had evidence of one cavity. I am quoting Dr. Price, who wrote – “Of all the children in the valley still using the primitive diet of whole rye bread and dairy products the average number of cavities per person was 0.3. On an average it was necessary to examine three persons to find one defective deciduous or permanent tooth.” But looking at that figure i may have gotten my math wrong. Modern Swiss children in some places had a rate of decay of 25%.

http://www.juliiles.com/ Juli

I have been told that I need braces because my top teeth are pushing my bottom teeth back. My teeth don’t look bad at all, but I have been told that it could cause problems if I don’t do anything about it. When I bite down my top teeth cover more than half of my bottom teeth. Now that I am 23 years old can Fermented CLO and raw milk help this problem or am I “too far gone”. lol Thank you for any replies. If this issue is covered in your book I will definitely need to purchase it.

http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

Hi Juli,

Braces won’t help your situation. In fact it will probably make it worse
What will help you is an ALF, or a night guard that lets your jaw swing forward.
http://www.curetoothdecay.com/Dentistry/find_best_dentist.htm
In order to get your front teeth to stop covering your lower teeth, you need to raise the height of your back teeth. A long and challenging process.
Kim Rioux1

Without seeing you I’d say you likely have a “restricted envelope of function”. Yes it’s too late for CLO and/or raw milk to help with skeletal development (but not decay!). Keeping your jaw in a forward position at night can potentially cause long term damage to the TMJ. It can sometimes be the best treatment for sleep apnea for people that can’t use a cPAP. It’s not a treatment for a deep bite (what you describe you have). If you’re concerned I’d consult with a qualified orthodontist. Look for any signs of wear on your lower front teeth. If you see it at your age, it’s a problem. The only way to “raise the height of your back teeth” (known as opening the bite in our profession) is through restorative procedures – like crowns. I wouldn’t recommend anything that invasive at this point.
Kim Rioux DDS

Misterworms

I appreciate the Real Food spirit in Nagel’s advice but I see problems in completely dismissing the role bacteria play in the caries disease process. People may fixate on getting the fat soluble vitamins and minerals (which is great – it’s important and a critical component for some people) but attention also needs to be paid to the microbial community in our mouth.

Our oral cavity is part of our gut and just as susceptible to imbalances as other parts of our gut further down the line. Not surprisingly, foods that can contribute to problems like SIBO (sugars and other easily fermentable carbohydrates… the foods of commerce!) can foster an overgrowth of acid-producing microbes that produce the initial insult to tooth enamel.

Mary

Go back and listen to Nagel’s presentation again. He spoke to this in the beginning.

Julie

My child’s front teeth are discolored since she was born. Is there a remedy to return the teeth to their natural color?

http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

Probably not, you can rub them with baking soda.
Kim Rioux1

It depends on the color (brown or white), the intensity of the color and the cause. White flourosis can be minimized by a new, non-invasive technique called Icon.

Guest

In Rami’s slide about getting minerals with eating raw dairy, there was a bullet with Fluoride starred, yet he made no mention of fluoride either in that section of his talk, nor anytime during his presentation. Could Rami expand on why “*Fluoride” appeared on that slide for us please?

http://www.facebook.com/rami.nagel Rami Nagel

Hi,

this
- Guest
  
  Thank you. I had/have my opinions about fluoride, but didn’t want to assume that’s where you intended that bulleted item to go.

ShorterMama

I was curious what the dosage would be if you do the Fermented CLO, Butter Oil Blend.

Eva

By “raw milk” does he mean only cow’s milk, or would that include goat? Just curious.

confused

the #1 vitamin d source (outside) of the diet is the sun

Quentinnichols

How about receding gums? What is a good way to promote healthy gum growth? Thank you!

your guest

Thanks for including this topic. Oral health seems widely overlooked

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=591391857 Geoff Robinson

Excellent presentations Sean, I remember coming home from school in the 80s and telling my healthy grandparents to give up fats, salt and the all the traditional foods they had eaten all their lives. I was fortunate they did not listen to my teachers advice.
Re teeth demineralisation, Rami mentions medications at the start of his talk. I was misprescribed a Fluoroquinolone antibiotic for a training injury, adverse reaction disabled me in multiple ways, one minor (in context of whole experience) side effect was tooth damage, including receeding gums and gaps between teeth and alteration of colour. Commonly prescribed drugs like Cipro and Levaquin are causing havoc with health. Would be great to hear from paleo/primal/WAP nutrition specialists shed more light on harm of Big Pharma medications like Quinolones which are disabling people including extremely fit athletes, sometimes seemingly irreversibly.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1042614846 Allyson Bossie

I wonder if there is another showing. I can’t possibly watch this at 3 am and learn anything

Dineen Ford

You can view it now, Allyson. At 3 AM EDT time it won’t be available any more.

News Editor

Mr. Rami Nagel:

Excellent presentation! You spoke with clarity and a very healthy level of understanding on this particular topic of dealing with healthy teeth and healthy eating over all. Thanks for your investment in time.

News Editor @ Our Full Health

Elaine

For Ann
Conroy,

I must
admit to being confounded that you continue to listen to and watch this series
of presentations. Clearly, you are a
vegetarian or vegan. Also, clearly, the
Weston A. Price followers are anything but.
Why would you make yourself miserable by listening to 9 days of
presentations by people who strongly disagree with you?

I do
think your suggestion that this series has been funded by cattle raisers is
ludicrous. Consider attending the Weston
A. Price conference in Santa Clara, California and see the massive numbers of
people who are following this lifestyle and are eagerly seeking more
information. Yes, it is my understanding
that many of them are fallen away vegan/vegetarians whose health finally
bottomed out. You might also spend some
time watching editions of “Underground Wellness.” When you see Sean’s passion for his beliefs
and for making a difference for people, you’ll see that it is completely
reasonable that he would have invested his own money to put this summit
together. Frankly, I was trying to not
miss a single presentation because when I saw the quality I felt certain the
after-the-event price would be $200 to $400. The fact that Sean has made it affordable,
speaks to his vision and commitment.

You are
likely quite young and continue to enjoy the bloom of youth. I am nearing 70 years old, continue to work
fulltime as a professional educator, ride a bicycle a thousand miles each
summer, do all my own yard work, and effortlessly trot up and down the long and
steep staircases at my school, leaving my younger colleagues panting after
me. Had I not stopped eating grains,
soy, carrots, lemons, pasteurized milk, and omega-6 oils I am certain I would
have ended up in a wheelchair as was predicted by a rheumatologist when, 18
years ago, I told her I would not accept the multiple joint-replacement
prognosis she offered. I have never had
a joint replacement.

In
closing, I believe a simple google search will net you many websites that
promote the vegan/vegetarian lifestyle to which you are presently committed. Be kind to yourself and focus your energies
there with like-minded folks.

One
other thing, I did visit your facebook page.
I am a biologist and an animal lover.
Never would I support any act of cruelty to any animal. The laboratory procedures with which I am
familiar are carried out humanely and with great care. Yes, mice are exposed to diseases and
conditions for the purpose of developing a cure or preventative so that people
like you and me will have a chance at staying well. I do wonder at folks who are against using
animals as test subjects. Are you,
yourself, willing to submit to trials to see if medications and products are effective
and safe for us? Also, those bottles of
shampoos and lotions that state “Not tested on animals”? They are made of ingredients, each of which
has separately and in isolation been tested on animals. Legally, the companies can’t do otherwise.